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<br><div><div>On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Lorenzo Paulatto wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Fri, January 25, 2008 14:30, Lazaro Calderin wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Those ghosts are out of the interval of -2.5 to 0 Ry which one would</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">expect to be the important one for the bonding in this case.</div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This is an optimistic assumption; in my modest experience I have found</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that a ghosts at E < E_atomic_state always breaks the potential, at E < 1</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Ry usually breaks it, and at E < 5~6 Ry causes erratic and slow</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">convergence.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Try to test it in pw in a single atom configuration: it may converge fine</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">as long as you start from atomic wavefunctions. But if you start with some</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">random wavefunctions it converge slowly to a deeper "haunted"</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">configuration.</div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>that's the fault of the Ritz's variational principle, boys!</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>SB</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Why? See:</span></span></span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "> </span></span></span></font><a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0023E9" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;; color: rgb(0, 35, 233); -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 35, 233); font-size: 12px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 35, 233); font-size: 12px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html</span></span></span></font></a></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span> </div><br></body></html>