From bnrj.rudra at live.com  Sat May  1 09:18:26 2021
From: bnrj.rudra at live.com (Rudra Banerjee)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 07:18:26 +0000
Subject: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)
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Dear Gavin,
Thank you very much for the time you have spend to help me on this issue. If you have not deleted the fedora virtual box, may I request you to update fedora 34 (`sudo dnf update`)? I am requesting this because, during the update, you will see that xorg-x11-utils is replaced by some other packages. After that you will probably have the same problem as I am facing.

If you kindly check and find the same behaviour, we may ask Tony's help, beside creating a bug report in fedora bugzilla,

Regards,
Rudra
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From: Rudra Banerjee <bnrj.rudra at live.com>
Sent: 30 April 2021 20:39
To: XCrySDen mailing list <xcrysden at democritos.it>
Subject: Re: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)

Dear Gavin,
May I request you to confirm your virtualbox installation is in wayland? I have tried exact same process, and got the same error as notified.
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From: xcrysden-bounces at democritos.it <xcrysden-bounces at democritos.it> on behalf of Gavin Abo <gsabo at crimson.ua.edu>
Sent: 30 April 2021 16:00
To: xcrysden at democritos.it <xcrysden at democritos.it>
Subject: Re: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)


I can now confirm it also worked for me when I clicked the gear icon on the login screen on Fedora 34 and selected "GNOME on Xorg" following the Fedora documentation at:


https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/configuring-xorg-as-default-gnome-session/


I got the xcrysden-1.6.2-linux_x86_64-shared.tar.gz at


http://www.xcrysden.org/Download.html


and decompressed it (tar xvf xcrysden-1.6.2-linux_x86_64-shared.tar.gz).


I got the Togl2.0-8.4-Linux64.tar.gz at


https://sourceforge.net/projects/togl/files/Togl/2.0/


and decompressed it (tar xvf Togl2.0-8.4-Linux64.tar.gz).


In the extracted Togl2.0-8.4-Linux\lib\Togl2.0 directory, I created a symbolic link (ln -s libTogl2.0.so libTogl.0.2) following the post at:


http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/xcrysden/2020-February/001980.html


I set XCRYSDEN_TOPDIR in my .bashrc:


export XCRYSDEN_TOPDIR=/home/username/xcrysden-1.6.2-bin-shared
export PATH=$PATH:$XCRYSDEN_TOPDIR


I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the Togl2.0-8.4-Linux\lib\Togl2.0 directory following the post at:


http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/xcrysden/2020-February/001982.html


I closed and opened a new terminal to load the new .bashrc settings.


Finally, it opened without error when I ran in a terminal the command: xcrysden


On 4/30/2021 3:35 AM, Gavin Abo wrote:

Thanks as I wasn't aware that Fedora switched Xorg to Wayland.  That might explain why I had to compile xcrysden following the steps in my previous post below for it to work with Wayland.


There is a lot of interesting information on Wayland.


https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/wayland#XWayland

https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277

https://www.osnews.com/story/132975/think-twice-before-abandoning-xorg-wayland-breaks-everything/


I haven't tried following Fedora's documentation myself yet to switch Wayland to XOrg to see if the xcrysden 1.6.2 binary package (xcrysden-1.6.2-linux_x86_64-shared.tar.gz) will run on my computer with having to compile it with (xcrysden-1.6.2.tar.gz).


https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/configuring-xorg-as-default-gnome-session/


On 4/29/2021 11:56 PM, Rudra Banerjee wrote:
Dear all, I confirm that the problem reported is problem due to Wayland. in xorg, it is working fine.
Is there any solution please?
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From gsabo at crimson.ua.edu  Sat May  1 16:08:48 2021
From: gsabo at crimson.ua.edu (Gavin Abo)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 08:08:48 -0600
Subject: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)
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Rudra,


My Fedora 34 within a Windows 10 VirtualBox is in Wayland, and xcrysden 
1.6.2 still seems to be working even after doing today the "sudo dnf 
update".


For xcrysden 1.6.2, I'm using the xcrysden-1.6.2.tar.gz from [1] which 
was installed using the steps at [2].


Temporarily link of screenshot showing xcrysden 1.6.2 running Fedora 34 
with gnome Wayland within VirtualBox: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IkEIhn9qLMkA5bdiSTNMzSUdlDoYy5Fl/view?usp=sharing


[1] http://www.xcrysden.org/Download.html

[2] http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/xcrysden/2021-April/002050.html


On 5/1/2021 1:18 AM, Rudra Banerjee wrote:
> Dear Gavin,
> Thank you very much for the time you have spend to help me on this 
> issue. If you have not deleted the fedora virtual box, may I request 
> you to update fedora 34 (`sudo dnf update`)? I am requesting this 
> because, during the update, you will see that xorg-x11-utils is 
> replaced by some other packages. After that you will probably have the 
> same problem as I am facing.
>
> If you kindly check and find the same behaviour, we may ask Tony's 
> help, beside creating a bug report in fedora bugzilla,
>
> Regards,
> Rudra
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Rudra Banerjee <bnrj.rudra at live.com>
> *Sent:* 30 April 2021 20:39
> *To:* XCrySDen mailing list <xcrysden at democritos.it>
> *Subject:* Re: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)
> Dear Gavin,
> May I request you to confirm your virtualbox installation is in 
> wayland? I have tried exact same process, and got the same?error as 
> notified.
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From bnrj.rudra at live.com  Sat May  1 17:42:12 2021
From: bnrj.rudra at live.com (Rudra Banerjee)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 21:12:12 +0530
Subject: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)
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From gsabo at crimson.ua.edu  Sat May  1 18:55:36 2021
From: gsabo at crimson.ua.edu (Gavin Abo)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 10:55:36 -0600
Subject: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)
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Yeah, you may have to just use Xorg.

FYI, I just using onboard Intel for video, which should be using mesa 
[1].If the computer is using different video such an AMD or Nvidia video 
card, there may be some limitations with Wayland and the video card 
driver [2] or maybe their could be compile settings that would need 
adjusted for the video card [4] in Togl2 and xcrysden.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa_(computer_graphics)
[2] 
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/howto-use-wayland-with-propietary-nvidia-drivers/36130
[3] 
https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/graphical-session/graphics-drivers/nvidia.html
[4] 
https://vtkusers.public.kitware.narkive.com/BdducvEK/compiling-vtk-on-an-nvidia-card

On 5/1/2021 9:42 AM, Rudra Banerjee wrote:
> Dear Gavin,
> Thanks a lot for your help. I am still getting the same error. May be 
> I have to live with xorg when using xcrysden.
> Regards,
> Rudra
>
> On 1 May 2021 19:38, Gavin Abo <gsabo at crimson.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>     Rudra,
>
>
>     My Fedora 34 within a Windows 10 VirtualBox is in Wayland, and
>     xcrysden 1.6.2 still seems to be working even after doing today
>     the "sudo dnf update".
>
>
>     For xcrysden 1.6.2, I'm using the xcrysden-1.6.2.tar.gz from [1]
>     which was installed using the steps at [2].
>
>
>     Temporarily link of screenshot showing xcrysden 1.6.2 running
>     Fedora 34 with gnome Wayland within VirtualBox:
>     https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IkEIhn9qLMkA5bdiSTNMzSUdlDoYy5Fl/view?usp=sharing
>     <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IkEIhn9qLMkA5bdiSTNMzSUdlDoYy5Fl/view?usp=sharing>
>
>
>     [1] http://www.xcrysden.org/Download.html
>     <http://www.xcrysden.org/Download.html>
>
>     [2]
>     http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/xcrysden/2021-April/002050.html
>     <http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/xcrysden/2021-April/002050.html>
>
>
>     On 5/1/2021 1:18 AM, Rudra Banerjee wrote:
>
>         Dear Gavin,
>         Thank you very much for the time you have spend to help me on
>         this issue. If you have not deleted the fedora virtual box,
>         may I request you to update fedora 34 (`sudo dnf update`)? I
>         am requesting this because, during the update, you will see
>         that xorg-x11-utils is replaced by some other packages. After
>         that you will probably have the same problem as I am facing.
>
>         If you kindly check and find the same behaviour, we may ask
>         Tony's help, beside creating a bug report in fedora bugzilla,
>
>         Regards,
>         Rudra
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         *From:* Rudra Banerjee <bnrj.rudra at live.com>
>         <mailto:bnrj.rudra at live.com>
>         *Sent:* 30 April 2021 20:39
>         *To:* XCrySDen mailing list <xcrysden at democritos.it>
>         <mailto:xcrysden at democritos.it>
>         *Subject:* Re: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34
>         (gnome 40)
>         Dear Gavin,
>         May I request you to confirm your virtualbox installation is
>         in wayland? I have tried exact same process, and got the
>         same?error as notified.
>
>
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From bnrj.rudra at live.com  Sat May  1 19:56:51 2021
From: bnrj.rudra at live.com (Rudra Banerjee)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 23:26:51 +0530
Subject: [xcrysden] xcrysden not starting with fedora 34 (gnome 40)
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